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LJ Cohen
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Username: ljc

Post Number: 8771
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

One of the common themes I see here on Wild is poets who express fear of offering critique. Something that might help is to have a format or a list of guiding questions for critique. You should not feel bound or limited by the format, but structure can take some of the fear out of the blank page. :-)

It may be useful to break comments down into the following subsections: (Some examples of the kind of language I use in a critique follows each heading in italics)

Overview
The poem moved me. It reminded me of my own experiences when . . .

Structure
I think the couplet form works well here to pace the read. -or- I think the pace would be improved with some additional white space. Have you considered couplets?

Imagery
Unusual use of colors throughout really engaged me. -or- The description of the _____ felt generic to me. Can you find a stronger comparison?

Language
Very strong use of internal rhyme in stanza 1. -or- The unusual verbs really work to move the poem forward. -or- The description of the _____ is very adjective heavy.


Rhythm
The line breaks on words like 'it', 'the', and 'you' feel week. -or- This stanza break really stood out--I wasn't expecting the turn the poem took here.

Voice
The language in the poem really reflects the narrator. -or- The contrast between the serious theme and the upbeat rhymes feels jarring.

Overall, it is important to balance out positive from more critical comments. Generally, it is easier to hear 'negative' comments when they are sandwiched between positive ones.


Sometimes it can be difficult to comment on a poem as a whole. In that case, it can be helpful to the poet to receive comments on specifics.

This is something I've adapted from a lesson plan for a poetry anthology that I found on the web.

When reading a poem, notice is there:

# a word, phrase or line you like or admire? (you don't have to know why)

# a word, phrase, or line you find difficult to understand?

# a word, phrase or line that disturbs or angers you?

# a word, phrase or line that simply stays in your thoughts?

A useful crit can be one in which you make a specific comment in any of these 4 areas.

Best,
ljc
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Fred Longworth
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Username: sandiegopoet

Post Number: 3172
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

THANKS FOR THIS, LISA.

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~M~
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Username: mjm

Post Number: 28293
Registered: 11-1998
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Thanks for providing this, Lisa. You're a peach. I'm sure it will help many people. I hope they print it out and tack it to their bulletin boards.

Love,
M
GA Sunshine
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Username: ga_sunshine

Post Number: 1216
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 6:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

I'll make a copy and keep it beside my computer. Thanks!

*Hugs*
Susan
Mariah Wilson
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Username: mariahwilson43

Post Number: 579
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 6:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Lisa, thanks for this. It sure will come in handy for those poem I read that I just don't know what to say. Sometimes I like them and I still don't know what to say besides, good work, I liked it, Or this part was great. Thank you for taking the time to provide this list for us wilders. I think there is something on there for everyone, no matter how long you've been giving crits to fellow poets, there is always room to learn.
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Gary Blankenship
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Username: garydawg

Post Number: 22044
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 9:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Lisa, well done, belongs in the reference library.

Smiles.

Gary
Kathy Paupore
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Username: kathy

Post Number: 7396
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Lisa, thanks. This is exactly how I learned to crit here at WILD, through trial and error, and what I like to hear people say about my poems.

Bravo!

:-) K
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Barbara Ruth
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Username: barbara

Post Number: 90
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Monday, January 28, 2008 - 3:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Lisa, this is a great reminder. Thanks for posting it.

Barbara