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Kathy Paupore
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Username: kathy

Post Number: 4293
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 7:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Borrowed from Sol Magazine

Gerunds Don't Dance:
"ing" Endings in Poetry
an editorial by Mary Margaret Carlisle, Managing Editor


Many teachers train beginning poets to use gerunds as an easy way to achieve a simple internal or external rhyme. Although fine for light or romantic poetry, problems abound when gerunds are used more than a few times in any poem.

An "ing" ending adds no real meaning; "ing" is a weak modifier, an addendum that turns an active verb into a passive gerund. An adjective that was once a verb is not as vital or strong as the verb itself. Too much modification does not help writing of any kind, and in poetry may encourage a drift into flowery language.

In addition, a heavy reliance on gerunds turns attention away from meaning and inadvertently puts more emphasis on how the words sound. This dependence can dilute a voice so much that it becomes like a gentle wind in the trees--soft and lovely as it passes, but the meaning can quickly fade away.

An active voice that is crisp, vivid and unique becomes passive with an overuse of gerunds. And just as using a "southern drawl" in dialogue slows action to a crawl, remember that gerunds don't dance, they walk.

Clip most "ing" endings from your work. Instead, choose words imbued with power and strength that stand on their own without modification, and your work will move in a more memorable and meaningful way.

:-) K
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Fred Longworth
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Username: sandiegopoet

Post Number: 846
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Dear Kathing Pauporing,

-ing words? I never use them.

Freding
"A-Bear"
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Username: dane

Post Number: 1952
Registered: 11-1998
Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 1:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Ouch! That stings. And she went on to say, "Hurt me, baby, hurt me," as we danced the night away.

BTW, I was learning to Tango, and it was Paris. Just wondering if the word sting is considered a gerund. If so, they dance wildly when used properly, and I speak from experience.

Just kidding, Kathy. Your post is well taken. It's a peeve of many who frequent here, especially our Nehi friend, and fellow poet, Mr. Gardawg. I try to minimize the ings when I write (could have written, "when writing) but it's very difficult, as you know. Thanks for the informative reminder. Something worth remembering as we approach a New Year.

Much love,

D
penny
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Username: funnyoldlady

Post Number: 2157
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 2:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Thanks for the reminder, Kathy. Happy New Yearing to you and all Wilders!

penny (-:=
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Fred Longworth
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Username: sandiegopoet

Post Number: 854
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Poetry that uses too many -ing forms is natually written in --
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-inglish
Jeffrey S. Lange
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Username: runatyr

Post Number: 473
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

The first line surprised me the most. "Many teachers train beginning poets to use gerunds"... do they really? I was under the impression that most teachers of poetry steered young poets away from the excessive use of gerunds.
"I had a lover's quarrel with the world." ~Robert Frost
Kathy Paupore
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Username: kathy

Post Number: 4300
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 9:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

LOL everyoneing! I am guilty, I overused ings when I was first began poeming.

I think perhaps it's teachers at the highschool level who use the "ing" when teaching poetry, just like they teach the form of haiku is 17 syllables, 5-7-5.

Happy New Year!

:-) K
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KA
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Username: kerryann

Post Number: 176
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Actually it's true. My poetry teachers from University tirelessly taught us to use gerunds in our first year, only to say in our second year that now we have the unpleasant task of unlearning them. They said they did this to make us more prepared, and more aware of the nasty diseases they call gerunds.

Go figure.

And here I thought it was because I had lived in Quebec and we're all about bastardizing languages. :o)
4rum
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Username: 4rum

Post Number: 105
Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 2:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Boy... glad I never had a poetry teacher.
Gary Blankenship
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Username: garyb

Post Number: 10074
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 4:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

I dislike them, I think they are a sign of laziness generally used for the passive voice when the active is better - but as I do more slyllabics (the suns, limericks, et al) find I do them more often...

I do complain less about them than I used to...

Smiles.

Gary
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