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valezar
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Username: valezar

Post Number: 4
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

anyone use the blog at myspace? If so, are there any problems with retaining the rights of your work there? I heard about a clause in the myspace agreement that states they own anything you post under their blog/profile system. Who here uses it, and are you concerned at all?

Thanks in advance.
Karen L Monahan
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Username: klhmonahan

Post Number: 1162
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Valezar,

First of all-- Welcome to Wild! Secondly, no, I do not use myspace but I post my work online. I hear writer's complain about someone stealing their work and I just can't wrap my head around the idea. That would be like saying someone else birthed my child, it just can't be done.

Sure, sure, you can end up fighting for rights, for ownership, but, bottom line-- really, it is impossible for someone to have written anything you have written.

I suppose some people take these things more seriously than I do. Those folks should write and post in as many places as possible, sort of a guaranteed date of conception, ya know?

If it's good enough to steal, then you should have it published as soon as possible. Send it out via email or airmail just as soon as you feel confident enough to post it on Myspace... otherwise, consider it your work and take the chance that some fool will make an idiot of themselves if they ever try and call it theirs.

lol if myspace wants to call something you've written theirs, that'll be a great lawsuit. And, if myspace is responsible for all content, I would imagine that they are in a lot of trouble, with a few of the recent (under age) problems I've heard about.

I look forward to reading your work-- (wink) hope it's worth stealing.

(((smile)))
Karen
Gary Blankenship
Senior Member
Username: garyb

Post Number: 8449
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

From myspace

Proprietary Rights in Content on MySpace.com.
MySpace.com does not claim any ownership rights in the text, files, images, photos, video, sounds, musical works, works of authorship, or any other materials (collectively, "Content") that you post to the MySpace Services. After posting your Content to the MySpace Services, you continue to retain all ownership rights in such Content, and you continue to have the right to use your Content in any way you choose. By displaying or publishing ("posting") any Content on or through the MySpace Services, you hereby grant to MySpace.com a limited license to use, modify, publicly perform, publicly display, reproduce, and distribute such Content solely on and through the MySpace Services.
Without this license, MySpace.com would be unable to provide the MySpace Services. For example, without the right to modify Member Content, MySpace.com would not be able to digitally compress music files that Members submit or otherwise format Content to satisfy technical requirements, and without the right to publicly perform Member Content, MySpace.com could not allow Users to listen to music posted by Members. The license you grant to MySpace.com is non-exclusive (meaning you are free to license your Content to anyone else in addition to MySpace.com), fully-paid and royalty-free (meaning that MySpace.com is not required to pay you for the use on the MySpace Services of the Content that you post), sublicensable (so that MySpace.com is able to use its affiliates and subcontractors such as Internet content delivery networks to provide the MySpace Services), and worldwide (because the Internet and the MySpace Services are global in reach). This license will terminate at the time you remove your Content from the MySpace Services. The license does not grant MySpace.com the right to sell your Content, nor does the license grant MySpace.com the right to distribute your Content outside of the MySpace Services.

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BTW there are better blog choices than myspace. And Karen, they have made changes but idiots will be idiots.

Yahoo supposedly tried to own contanct but that turned out to be bogus.

Smiles.

Gary


A River Transformed

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valezar
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Username: valezar

Post Number: 5
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

I think you missunderstood, Karen. I am not worried about someone steeling my work. I'm a screenwriter by trade, if that was a worry of mine I would be in an asylum by now. I'm simply talking about the clause regarding proprietary ownership/distribution by myspace of anythig posted in their system. Not a case of stealing, but immediate ownership (as clarified for me in the clause posted above, thanks btw).

By the way,Gary, what blog do you suggest?
Karen L Monahan
Advanced Member
Username: klhmonahan

Post Number: 1163
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Ah, yes.. not the same thing. Gary will know the right blog, he's an expert.

(((smile)))
Karen
valezar
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Username: valezar

Post Number: 6
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Oh, and Karen, thanks for the nice welcome. :-)
Gary Blankenship
Senior Member
Username: garyb

Post Number: 8450
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

The only thing I an expert on is posting on Wild.

But try here

http://www.blogger.com/start

I haven't been keeping mine up, but have thanks to you, have promised myself to and made the first new post today.

Lisa and E are more expert than I.

Smiles.

Gary


A River Transformed

The Dawg House

July FireWeed more War/Peace
Karen L Monahan
Advanced Member
Username: klhmonahan

Post Number: 1164
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

(evil laugh)
LJ Cohen
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Username: ljc

Post Number: 4963
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 4:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Expert? Doubt that, but I do keep a blog on blogger and have been happy with it.

Pretty user friendly and easy to update.

I know a lot of writers who use livejournal because of the ability to keep the blog private and define a circle of friends who can see it.

Those are the major free blogs. You can also use wordpress, but I think you have to pay for it.

best,
ljc
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Fred Longworth
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Username: sandiegopoet

Post Number: 48
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 6:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Valezar,

Go ahead and post your poems on a blog. I use Xanga myself.

However, when a poem is on submission or is currently or recently published on-line or in hardcopy, I strongly suggest you take the poem off your blog.

Many editors routinely google every poem they receive, and if it comes up anywhere besides a workshop like this, it may reduce or eliminate your chances of acceptance. After all, some degree of exclusivity of access to a poem is one of the things that gives a journal value.

Best,

Fred
valezar
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Username: valezar

Post Number: 9
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 8:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Great advice everyone. Thanks for the tip fred, but my writing is just fun for now, no desire to seek publishing of any kind at the moment.

Thanks guys!